But also their is dark skinned Roma, that don't speak any words of Indic Origin at all. And most recently, Ronnie Wood from the Rolling stones admitted he is Rom on his 60th birthday when his wife gave him a bow-top vardo. Oh, and sources that state a person is of Roma descent does constitute being on the list of "People with Roma Heritage.". All I have asked you is not to vandalise the talk page. Famous Roma must be REAL Roma? And I've worked with Dr.Hancock. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 22:35, 20 September 2013 (UTC), Here is the reference for Pablo Picasso and Mother Teresa being Romani, Here is another: http://www.webprincess.com/facab/apr98.htm. We've developed a few templates over the years here at JONJ. http://www.imninalu.net/famousGypsies.htm, Albert Lee https://the-talks.com/interview/sir-michael-caine/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:300A:15B6:6000:84D:887:B261:1139 (talk) 16:12, 4 October 2019 (UTC). It's not like she claimed it was her cousin 5 generations back and 10 times removed. http://www.fmsound.net/NewReleases/Articles/Albert%20Lee/Albert%20Lee.html, Andy McCoy She was well known for her high pitched soprano voice. --Guzman ramirez 22:02, 24 April 2006 (UTC). --Burgas00 11:07, 4 April 2006 (UTC), I think the bbc would have mentioned Picasso being a Roma on this article on "Picasso and the Gypsies": http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/ww2/A6864285 Burgas00- Why erase? I find this disrespectful and offensive. The list states "People with Roma Heritage" you dont know to what degree they are Roma, so your broad brushstrokes. Robbyfoxxxx 23:11, 12 April 2006 (UTC), Robbyfoxxx: Don'use the "Im Gypsy" argument of authority, when you have no other. And Yul Brynner's son can argue it till he's blue in the face, Brynner was, indeed part Roma on his mother's side. Also Nikita Denise is Roma she grew up in Slovakia and is fully Roma. As for Yul Brynner, he encouraged reporters to think he was a gypsy or half-Japanese, half-French, or an orphaned Mongolian noble. In any case, Roma ethnicity is not defined by having a Gypsy ancestor but by being ethnic Roma: having recieved Roma culture and having at least one Roma parent.I guess it is similar to the definition of being jewish. The Roma of England have blond hair and blue eyes mostly.They also vaker the chib.There maybe a melting pot effect that is not occuring in the Balkans, but it is definitely happening in the US and Western Europe.Many of us American Roma don't know we are Roma until we are told when we are older by an Aunt,Uncle or Grandparent. http://www.geocities.com/~patrin/timeofthegypsies.htm, http://www.webprincess.com/facab/apr98.htm, http://members.tassie.net.au/~rteirney/Bill_Blyth.html, http://www.travellersinleeds.co.uk/_travellers/boxing.html, http://www.tiscali.co.uk/entertainment/film/biographies/helen_mirren_biog.html, http://www.newhumanist.org.uk/volume119issue2_more.php?id=591_0_26_0_C, http://www.time.com/time/archive/printout/0,23657,776360,00.html, http://www.radoc.net:8088/RADOC-34-ROMANCE.htm, http://www.ultimaterc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29504, http://www.stlouis.missouri.org/501c/gitana/page2D.html, http://www.imninalu.net/famousgypsies.htm, Hancock, Ian;We are the Romani People;University of Hertfordshire Press;2003, Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, http://www.hollywood.com/celebs/fulldetail/id/1118607, http://www.wirehouse.com/bio.asp?t=a&SiteID=FairuzaBalk, http://xpress.sfsu.edu/archives/arts/004703.html, http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9017835?tocId=9017835, http://www.imninalu.net/famousGypsies.htm, http://www.kimia-sains.com/articles/Romany, http://www.talkingpix.co.uk/ReviewsSwing.html, http://www.kipaddotta.com/rita-hayworth.html, http://www.fmsound.net/NewReleases/Articles/Albert%20Lee/Albert%20Lee.html, http://entertainment.msn.com/movies/movie.aspx?m=181345, http://www.everyculture.com/multi/Du-Ha/Gypsy-Americans.html, http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/1902806190, http://www.virtualtourist.com/travel/Europe/Spain/Andalucia/Sevilla-253763/Things_To_Do-Sevilla-Triana_District-R-1.html-, https://the-talks.com/interview/sir-michael-caine/, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_Roma_people&oldid=919602622, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License, This page was last edited on 4 October 2019, at 16:13. Format: 12" LP (33 RPM). YUL BRYNNER the gypsy and i. Label: VANGUARD 79256. A fact that had to be proven to the council in London in order to establish the Gypsy campsite there. Your preaching to the choir and you need to stop this,It is getting rather stupid fighting about this shit to complete strangers. I hope I am not coming off as hardheaded, It is a jigsaw puzzle with pieces missing. https://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/yul-brynner-3242.php Although he had quit in 1971, his promotional photos often still showed him with a cigarette in hand. They feel the need to belong to something. It would not be tenable. Therefore they are of Roma descent (Charlie Chaplin, Yul Brynner and Ava Gardner I knew about, but Bill Clinton was a new one on me)." View credits, reviews, tracks and shop for the 1967 Vinyl release of The Gypsy And I on Discogs. Surely given that amongst the Romani there is a dispute as to which elements are trully so there needs to be an exact definition not only based on proportion of ancestry but also on which actual ancestry counts at Romani. Apr 29, 2019 - (Adult) Exceptional energy in these men of history. Shipping Info. YUL BRYNNER The Gypsy And I VINYL LP Aliosha Dimitrievitch ROMANI Serge Camps. In his lifetime, … You paint such broad brushstrokes, Gypsy is different than Roma? We owe the Roma people some respect: Imagine this page was called "list of jewish people". Apr 29, 2019 - (Adult) Exceptional energy in these men of history. Or how about those wierd protestant sects you have in the US: The Messianic Christians?? She looks White but she went to PowWows, and She also would eat Curry with her Indian Grandma for India. I am not sure about Ibrahimović but i think that he said in an interwiew that his father is Bosniak. So can you guess where we're going here? My uncle is Ronald Lee. I don't want to be misunderstood, like I'm having something against Roma people. Elvis Presley, Britney Spears, Ha, Ha,Ha, You make no sense. 30 5. PEOPLE PLEASE!. His acting career is associated with just two roles — the King of Siam (in the King and I) and Ramses II (in Ten Commandments). You were probably naive enough to believe it and consider yourself Gypsy or something and have developed an interest in this group... That is why you are including your American Pop-idols in the list of ethnic Roma. Brynner announced he was born in Cape Elizavety, a small community on Sakhalin, a … http://www.imninalu.net/famousGypsies.htm, Rita Hayworth http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/roma/gft/gft138.htm, Yul Brynner Vera (Borisovna) Bryner was the sister of Yul Brynner (who added a 2nd 'n' to the last name). Well it is to late for that, and all Famous People of Roma and Sinti ancestry will be put back on the list even after it has been vandalized many times. He eventually revealed his gypsy background, often publicly speaking on gypsy affairs. His acting career is associated with just two roles — the King of Siam (in the King and I) and Ramses II (in Ten Commandments). You are trying to exclude people for not being 100% Gypsy. Bob Hoskins? So I can say that i have never heard about anyone married Roma and vice versa in my hole life as I remember. $55.00 . Well the same thing is going on right now, only there are no Roma to defend their own community on wikipedia. They later moved to China before heading to Paris in 1932 with his mother and his sister. http://entertainment.msn.com/movies/movie.aspx?m=181345, Helen Mirren I also want to point out that there are similiar communities (mostly in Western Europe) who may not be of same Indian origins like Roma. 1967 Preview SONG TIME The Line of Fate. She claims her great grandmother was Romany. One fairly common one is when we take a person with a Jewish sounding name, point out all the ways in which they appear Jewish, and then twist it around by pointing out they're not Jews. http://www.nikita-denise.org/, George Bramwell Evens http://www.talkingpix.co.uk/ReviewsSwing.html, Edyta Gorniak Plus 100,000 AM/FM radio stations featuring music, news, and local sports talk. 2. I once asked them how they met, my parents said they were on a bus and met each other trying to pick their pockets." Documented proof...Let me tell you something, There aint no way one of my relatives is going to "document" they are Gypsy. Buy Yul Brynner: A Biography by Michelangelo Capua (ISBN: 9780786424610) from Amazon's Book Store. I know-a stereotypical Roma, SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN FILE EASILY. You seem to know everything, tell me more about me, Im sure you know more than me :) Robbyfoxxxx 20:26, 10 April 2006 (UTC). I apologize. I can tell you right now, my aunt was at the opening of London's largest camp site. U Sjedinjenim Državama se pojavio u mnogim filmskim i kazališnim produkcijama. I know it is very easy to say such harsh things on the computer. Michelle Branch has noted in passing that her great grandmother was a fortune teller and gypsy. Because of his contribution to spreading the Gypsy culture all over the world, in 1979 the International Romani Union named him an honorary president. so leave it alone, this section is for "People with Roma Heritage", to differentiate from "Roma People". Brynner began smoking heavily aged 12. Known as the bald cowboy in The Magnificent Seven and the sexy, charismatic male lead in The King and I, Yul Brynner was a Hollywood paragon of masculinity. 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